. >> for a closer look at nelson mandela. this is someone that you have covered many times, that you have also met. what will he be remember as as a person? >> it is such a difficult thing. as president obama referred to a man rarely seen. a man that was not only humble but very powerful. someone we probably won't ever see again in our lifetime. he was such a rare character. he came from the royal family. he had the presence of royalty yet he was so humble. it is something that people always talk about. they had ability to disarm his enemiesly kindness and eventually his enemies would want to be his friend and would fall in love with him. that is some of the rhetoric we know as south africans. he is known as the father of the nation. the person that came to symbolize someone who could take a difficult dispute and resolve nefment will south africa change after his death? >> this has been debated for quite sometime. a lot of people were in denial. he was 95 years old and sick for a very long time. it was something that was in the back of our minds. he seemed invincible. he fought until the very end.